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Tuesday, January 15, 2008

On Braggart, On Boaster, On Doting or Smug?

Mim recently wrote a post about bragging. Bragging about our children. I occasionally read posts by bloggers asking why we don't brag and encouraging us all to brag about something in comments. What a great way to get comments... even the most dedicated lurker would come out for that one! (Speaking of which, why do I always miss delurking day? sigh. maybe next year. Meanwhile, if you are a lurking lurker and feel so inclined, feel free to delurk late - hey, I'm late, why not you?)


But getting back to this - Mimi talks a bit about why we might not brag. Is it merely that our culture dislikes a boaster, and teaches us it's better to be modest, that people will like you better? Well, that's a part, I'm sure. But she also suggests that it seems as if by extension, we are suggesting that other kids are not as good, that people will take it for nasty, CompetiMommy behaviour. Maybe so. But why?


Why is saying one thing is great suggesting that others are not? I am not talking about the others. In many cases, I may not know the others. I've noticed this in other circumstances, too. A staff member will be talking about someone else, mention that they are a great librarian, then say to me, "Not that you're not, I mean, you're a good librarian too..." in an awkward fashion. But why? Praising someone else doesn't reflect on me. You weren't talking about me. I know I'm a good librarian, but we weren't talking about me. Another librarian also being good at her job takes nothing away from me. In fact, it gives me a good colleague to trade ideas with and consult if I can't think of a good title. I love competent people.


Same goes for kids, right? Your kid being awesome takes nothing away from my kid's own fantasticosity. I don't know why we seem to see that as setting up competition. I don't think it is, in most cases, though there are those people, of course. You can hear it in them, I think, though. And that might be why I'm not too braggy here - you may not know me well enough to know I'm not all bitchy, and you can't hear my tone. You may not know that while I think my kid is terrific on many levels, it doesn't actually mean that I think she's the greatest child ever born, that all doors should be opened for her automatically on her approach, every rule should be bent because she is so special, and she should skip directly to Harvard because she is clearly a genius. No, I just really like my kid. I'm impressed with how much she has learned, how well she connects with the world and communicates it to us, how her imagination works. But maybe you couldn't tell that's all I mean from reading me. So yeah, I try to keep it subtle, too.


But whaddya think? Can we brag a bit without someone taking it the wrong way? And why do they take it that way? Insecurity? Certainty that their child is in fact better in every way? A competitive streak? Do they see their child as some extension of themselves, and are all crazy Type A (not good type a) about them? I don't really get it, frankly. We can all see our kids as amazing without thinking someone else's child is less. If we really knew those children, we'd think they were amazing, too, though with less of the haze of mommy love to make it really shine out to us. Truthfully, I know a ton of bloggers with awesome children. Children beautiful and clever, sweet and funny, willful and brave, musical and physical.

So next time I feel like bragging, perhaps I will just link back to this post to say, in shorthand, I know you have amazing kids. Mine is no more or less fantastic, and can we celebrate them together for a minute? Because I just have to tell you about this thing that made my heart expand out of my chest yesterday... And you are always welcome to tell me about your babe's latest impressive feats in return. Because they are all just so very, very mind-blowing, these children of ours.

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18 Comments:

Blogger Don Mills Diva said...

We all have amazing kids. I think everyone brags enough - even when bloggers are being self-depreceating or sarcastic their love for their kids always shines through.

January 15, 2008  
Blogger The Sexy Blonde said...

Sometimes the bragging can hit a sore spot, even though that's not what's intended. We all sometimes struggle with feeling inadequate, especially in the face other's greatness. It doesn't make it true. I think you balance being sensitive to those kinds of issues with letting your love and adoration for Pumpkinpie shine through. And letting yourself do an all out brag and linking back to this post is a great idea.

How's that for a de-lurking? ;-)

January 15, 2008  
Blogger bubandpie said...

I was out with friends the other night and one of them bragged about her son a bit (including, of course, the obligatory apology for doing so). I didn't mind at all - didn't feel threatened, didn't think she was being competitive - but I did notice that it kind of shut down the conversation. There doesn't seem to be much avenue of response to a litany of accomplishments; once you've said, "Wow, that's great!" a few times, it's hard to think up a lot more to say. Somehow other conversation topics seem to lend themselves more to the give-and-take of actual conversation.

Maybe that's why braggy blog posts work so much better. The format of this conversation is that we hear you out, then we get to add in our two cents. So feel free to put on your brag, and we'll be happy to respond with ours!

January 15, 2008  
Blogger metro mama said...

I think there's not enough bragging in the blogosphere.

January 15, 2008  
Blogger Ms. Huis Herself said...

I love reading brags. It's so fun to hear about something cool that somebody else's kid did! You get to hear the pride the parent has in the child's accomplishment, but I've never thought about it as competitive. Just "Hey, look, yay!"

(And yeah, I've posted a brag or two myself, but never meant it to be competitive, just "Hey, look at this, isn't it cool!?")

January 15, 2008  
Blogger Gabriella said...

Brag away!!! I don't mind and I love reading about other kid's accomplishments, even adult's accomplishments!

January 15, 2008  
Blogger Serendipity, baby! said...

I wish you'd brag about pumpkinpie's exploits more, actually. I love hearing about thoughtful, adorable kids, since so much of what I see at work is the very opposite. (and I hope you'll tolerate me bragging about my perfect kid when s/he is born) :P

January 15, 2008  
Blogger Mrs. Chicky said...

I hear ya, bud. I stop myself every day from bragging about my kid. Why? She's totally cool and truly amazing. I say brag away and maybe some of us will draw strength from you to do the same.

January 15, 2008  
Blogger Mimi said...

Interesting post, Kittenpie!

I'm still thinking about this too--I'm trying to be less self-conscious about bragging, actually, realizing that Munchkin deserves a champion, and if not her mother, then who?

I'm beginning to think that celebrating our individual children is also, in part, about celbrating childhood and parenting and the collected specific bits of magic that make up the generalized experience.

Bragging about my kid, I mean, can be a way of saying that *all* our kids are special, that kid-ness is full of wonders worth remarking, non?

January 15, 2008  
Blogger nomotherearth said...

I've always looked at blogging as a virtual baby book with bonus insight, so therefore, it's important to brag. A must, really.

January 16, 2008  
Anonymous Naomi (Urban Mummy) said...

I don't think there is anything wrong with taking pride in your children and their accomplishments / abilities.

There is a difference between "good" and "better". Talking about how good/nice/cute/fun/smart/etc is your own child is different then comparing him or her to another.

So brag away!

January 16, 2008  
Anonymous Redneck Mommy said...

This post resonates because I make a ridiculous effort not to brag about my kids too often on my blog.

That has to stop. Cuz my kids rock. When they're not driving me bat shit crazy that is...

January 16, 2008  
Blogger Angela said...

I completely agree with you and your commenters, you should feel free to brag and extoll your children's wonderful accomplishments. And you are so right, it doesn't mean you think your children are the best and better than others, you are justifiably proud of them, so please brag away.

January 17, 2008  
Blogger Lisa b said...

totally agree. I think it all does stem from insecurity. The competimoms really must be insecure.
Its sad really. Why does anyone feel threatened by others success?
I don't get it.

also love the last post about the cuddles. I know exactly what you mean.

January 17, 2008  
Blogger Mamalooper said...

I wish more moms felt comfortable about bragging about their kids.

At the same time, I find that how it comes across changes depending upon who is doing the "bragging" and I don't know why. One mom I know brags about her daughter and it rubs me the wrong way - she's not even the least bit of a competi-mom either. And another mom I know brags about her daughter and I find it totally delightful.

I think I do know why - heh - if they are bragging about what I think are virtues worth bragging about, then I am so on board. If it's bragging about a two year being into makeup, not so much.

Tra la la...egg on my face about realising again that I am probably much more judgmental than I realise...

January 17, 2008  
Blogger Mac and Cheese said...

I think I hesitate to brag because I don't believe anyone is all that interested in hearing it. It sounds like I'm wrong though, so maybe I'll join you in your quest to brag more.

January 17, 2008  
Blogger mo-wo said...

I hesitate to brag.. I don't like doing it in front of my kid so I don't really like doing it at all.

Because -- you know -- I'm not all that bright and I don't like flicking from one philosophy to another depending on the setting. Takes too much of the brain power I should really be applying to overlooking the latest shortcoming we have in the bottomless pit of making everything better because we are parents now.

For as you say.. the children are amazing. I only have energy for supporting their amazituditty. I don't have energy for bragging.

ps.. why don't I do it in front of my kid was covered here.

http://motherwoman.blogspot.com/2007/03/bragging-rights.html

quite a highly under-rated post

January 21, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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July 24, 2009  

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